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		<title>By: MM101 Summary &#171;</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>MM101 Summary &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been looking at our MM101 activities ranging from our housing, to our choice of transportation, retirement accounts, debts, income statements and net worth statements. These MM101 building [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spending your Net Worth &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spending your Net Worth &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spending your Net&#160;Worth   Published February 27, 2009   net worth Tags: 7million, 7million7years, Investing, Making Money 101, millionaire, money, Rich, Saving, Starting Out, wealth      Currently, over at the 7 Millionaires &#8230; In Training! &#8216;grand experiment&#8217; (which is progressing quite nicely, thank you &#8230; the lab rats are being well fed and are generally spinning their wheels in the right directions - clockwise. Always clockwise) we have been looking at the 7MIT&#8217;s cars and their attitudes, thereof. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spending your Net&nbsp;Worth   Published February 27, 2009   net worth Tags: 7million, 7million7years, Investing, Making Money 101, millionaire, money, Rich, Saving, Starting Out, wealth      Currently, over at the 7 Millionaires &#8230; In Training! &#8216;grand experiment&#8217; (which is progressing quite nicely, thank you &#8230; the lab rats are being well fed and are generally spinning their wheels in the right directions &#8211; clockwise. Always clockwise) we have been looking at the 7MIT&#8217;s cars and their attitudes, thereof. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Car or curse? 7 case studies &#8230; &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>Car or curse? 7 case studies &#8230; &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark - the savvy investor - shows the other BMW-lovers how to buy a good used one off e-Bay and negotiate the price lower AFTER you have already &#8216;bought it&#8217; &#8230; nice! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark &#8211; the savvy investor &#8211; shows the other BMW-lovers how to buy a good used one off e-Bay and negotiate the price lower AFTER you have already &#8216;bought it&#8217; &#8230; nice! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Where do all these rules come from? &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where do all these rules come from? &#171; How to Make 7 Million in 7 Years™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sense to me, and some that I had been following without even realizing it, just like the rules that Jeff questions: Where are all these rules coming from? Did I miss a bunch of information in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark - the 5% Rule is for ALL of your &#039;stuff&#039;: car/s, jewelry, electronics, furniture ... yes, and those &#039;valuable&#039; Wii&#039;s and PS3&#039;s. Together with the 20% Rule, it&#039;s designed to keep 75% of your assets in real investments at all times.

BUT ... the nature of true assets (appreciates) and &#039;stuff&#039; (depreciates) actually allows us to SPEND more on &#039;stuff&#039; every so often than you may at first realize. Life is meant to be rewarding AND fun :)

@ Jeff - the difference b/w what NWiQ and Robert Kiyosaki class as &#039;Net Worth&#039; is best explained in this post:

http://7million7years.com/2008/03/06/calculating-your-investment-net-worth/

... again, our 20% and 5% Rules help you manage the differences b/w the two; that&#039;s their power/simplicity/and (yes) beauty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark &#8211; the 5% Rule is for ALL of your &#8216;stuff&#8217;: car/s, jewelry, electronics, furniture &#8230; yes, and those &#8216;valuable&#8217; Wii&#8217;s and PS3&#8242;s. Together with the 20% Rule, it&#8217;s designed to keep 75% of your assets in real investments at all times.</p>
<p>BUT &#8230; the nature of true assets (appreciates) and &#8216;stuff&#8217; (depreciates) actually allows us to SPEND more on &#8216;stuff&#8217; every so often than you may at first realize. Life is meant to be rewarding AND fun <img src='http://7m7y.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Jeff &#8211; the difference b/w what NWiQ and Robert Kiyosaki class as &#8216;Net Worth&#8217; is best explained in this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://7million7years.com/2008/03/06/calculating-your-investment-net-worth/" rel="nofollow">http://7million7years.com/2008/03/06/calculating-your-investment-net-worth/</a></p>
<p>&#8230; again, our 20% and 5% Rules help you manage the differences b/w the two; that&#8217;s their power/simplicity/and (yes) beauty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adrian - The 5% rule is definitely quite strict on what we can buy. The car is definitely one of the big ticket item. How about other items of value - jewelry, electronics, furniture? I tend to think my Wii and PS3 is of some value ;)

@Jeff - Actually in both Quicken and NetworthIQ, cars are part of the asset column. But if we follow Robert Kiyosaki&#039;s notion of asset then both our cars and primary residence are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adrian &#8211; The 5% rule is definitely quite strict on what we can buy. The car is definitely one of the big ticket item. How about other items of value &#8211; jewelry, electronics, furniture? I tend to think my Wii and PS3 is of some value <img src='http://7m7y.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jeff &#8211; Actually in both Quicken and NetworthIQ, cars are part of the asset column. But if we follow Robert Kiyosaki&#8217;s notion of asset then both our cars and primary residence are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Adrian.</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff - Yes, the &#039;brochure&#039; is my blog (7million7years.com) ;)

The basic idea is to have AT LEAST 75% of your assets invested (i.e. NOT in your home/car/stuff/etc.) at all times.

I have found that 4/5 of what&#039;s left (i.e. 20%) is a very good number to have in your house (at most) leaving 1/5 of what&#039;s left (i.e. 5%) for everything else, including your car:

http://7million7years.com/2008/04/12/applying-the-20-rule-part-ii-your-possessions/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff &#8211; Yes, the &#8216;brochure&#8217; is my blog (7million7years.com) <img src='http://7m7y.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The basic idea is to have AT LEAST 75% of your assets invested (i.e. NOT in your home/car/stuff/etc.) at all times.</p>
<p>I have found that 4/5 of what&#8217;s left (i.e. 20%) is a very good number to have in your house (at most) leaving 1/5 of what&#8217;s left (i.e. 5%) for everything else, including your car:</p>
<p><a href="http://7million7years.com/2008/04/12/applying-the-20-rule-part-ii-your-possessions/" rel="nofollow">http://7million7years.com/2008/04/12/applying-the-20-rule-part-ii-your-possessions/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://7m7y.com/2009/02/13/ultimate-driving-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are all these rules coming from?  Did I miss a bunch of information in the brochure?

If I understand correctly, we have the 20% rule for home equity vs. net worth, 25% rule for mortgage vs. income, and now the 5% rule for cars.

I may need a pointer (link) to where that one was discussed.  It seems like all you&#039;d need to do is wait a bit and eventually your car will depreciate enough to be under 5%.

Does anyone really count their cars as part of their net worth?  I view them more as a disposable item and not something that I try and calculate my net worth with.

Thoughts?...Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are all these rules coming from?  Did I miss a bunch of information in the brochure?</p>
<p>If I understand correctly, we have the 20% rule for home equity vs. net worth, 25% rule for mortgage vs. income, and now the 5% rule for cars.</p>
<p>I may need a pointer (link) to where that one was discussed.  It seems like all you&#8217;d need to do is wait a bit and eventually your car will depreciate enough to be under 5%.</p>
<p>Does anyone really count their cars as part of their net worth?  I view them more as a disposable item and not something that I try and calculate my net worth with.</p>
<p>Thoughts?&#8230;Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark - You will want to get that conversation in writing, otherwise the Seller could decide to get nasty and complain to eBay (who will &#039;pull&#039; your account) ... otherwise, a great idea: lock in the sale =&gt; have the vehicle inspected =&gt; renegotiate the price!

Assuming that you have NO other assets, you are the first of the 7MITs to actually meet the 5% Rule. Congrats!

Just don&#039;t go out and celebrate by buying a new(er) car ;)

PS If my wife&#039;s Lexus SUV Hybrid is any indication, the gas savings are WAY more than offset by the cost of the vehicle :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark &#8211; You will want to get that conversation in writing, otherwise the Seller could decide to get nasty and complain to eBay (who will &#8216;pull&#8217; your account) &#8230; otherwise, a great idea: lock in the sale =&gt; have the vehicle inspected =&gt; renegotiate the price!</p>
<p>Assuming that you have NO other assets, you are the first of the 7MITs to actually meet the 5% Rule. Congrats!</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t go out and celebrate by buying a new(er) car <img src='http://7m7y.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS If my wife&#8217;s Lexus SUV Hybrid is any indication, the gas savings are WAY more than offset by the cost of the vehicle <img src='http://7m7y.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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